I Said It Was a Funny Angle Written By Blythe Insch1948 Tuesday, 21 June 2022 Add Comment Edit All the complaining over the years about the lack of detail on the TOS Enterprise, and when they redo all the special effects they leave off a bunch of dome markings. publiusr and Maurice like this. Henoch Rear Admiral Premium Member I think your red lines are off a little. They should go through centers of the communications station, the captain's chair and the helm console. It's still at a funny angle. If I was doing the FX, I'd rotate the ship more to port. NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral Joined: Apr 18, 2019 Location: SoCal I just put it through the captain's chair and the center of the console, very roughly, but there's no way you could get them to align. They probably filmed the bridge from the side and then the model people filmed the ship from an angle between front and side, and whoever had to put them together had no alternative than to merge the two as they were. Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member It's not a literal push-in through a clear dome. It's just to show where the bridge is. NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral Joined: Apr 18, 2019 Location: SoCal And yet, it's the only visual indication of this thread's topic Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member And meaningless because it can't be taken as anything more than "this room is in this". So not a valid data point, even if there are no others. NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral Joined: Apr 18, 2019 Location: SoCal you may find visual on-screen evidence irrelevant, but that doesn't change what it is: visual on-screen evidence. Here's how it was depicted in a SOVF trailer Last edited: Jul 29, 2021 Henoch and KennyB like this. Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member Not all "on-screen evidence" is evidence, any more than the Planet Killer or Decker's shuttlecraft changes size as the latter approaches the former. And I have no idea what an "SOVF trailer" is. NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral Joined: Apr 18, 2019 Location: SoCal and yet I assume you believe that the shuttle flew into the mouth of that thing XD secret of vulcan fury Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member No, I believe that the show portrayed that wholly fictional event as happening. And how is anyone supposed to know that SOVF meant "Secret of Vulcan Fury"? It's not anything commonly referred to even in Trek circles. I mean, if I typed DS9COT outside of a Trek gaming discussion would anyone know it meant the game Deep Space Nine—Crossroads of Time? Nnnnnope. plynch Rear Admiral Rear Admiral Laugh-out-loud-funny. Thank you. NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral Joined: Apr 18, 2019 Location: SoCal just as that bridge dome shot portrayed the wholly fictional bridge in the wholly fictional ship as totally happening to sit at a funny angle. does knowing what the abbreviation means affect the picture itself? BK613 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral A trailer from a non-game(never finished) being made by non-CBS/non-Paramount developers is as about as non-canon as it gets. (BTW, the turbolift doors open into space) NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral Joined: Apr 18, 2019 Location: SoCal Oh really? XD (So is the Franz Joseph stuff, of course) Apparently, it is as meaningless as actual, real CBS/Paramount-made canon Hmm. That could be useful! This took a turn. Can we get back to being silly yet friendly? plynch Rear Admiral Rear Admiral FJ stuff has appeared onscreen and is well known. BK613 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral The canon versions of that shot are meaningless because neither version (TOS and TOS-R) offer any evidence on the bridge's orientation. In either shot, neither the bridge faces forward nor does the turbolift line up with the nub. The only evidence the canon shots provide is that the bridge is located in the upper dome of the ship. Given that the turbolift doors do not in fact open into space, nor is the top of the bridge see-through . . . I don't understand what's wrong with the explanation that the turbolift car, when leaving the bridge, makes a little jog aft and starboard to reach the main chute/core. Nothing's wrong with it. It's a fine idea. One of the things that gets some fans hung up about it (not me, though) is the literal size of everything that's required to make it all fit together. That 947 feet is a problem, whether you're married to the number or not. If we're willing to just let things be the right size so it will work, then it's not as big a deal. Or, you solve the 947' problem by just sinking the bridge down half a deck. Those are the talking points in a nutshell, if I've followed all the bouncing balls. blytheinsch1948.blogspot.com Source: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/is-the-bridge-at-a-funny-angle.306619/page-33 Share this post
All the complaining over the years about the lack of detail on the TOS Enterprise, and when they redo all the special effects they leave off a bunch of dome markings.
I think your red lines are off a little. They should go through centers of the communications station, the captain's chair and the helm console. It's still at a funny angle. If I was doing the FX, I'd rotate the ship more to port.
I just put it through the captain's chair and the center of the console, very roughly, but there's no way you could get them to align. They probably filmed the bridge from the side and then the model people filmed the ship from an angle between front and side, and whoever had to put them together had no alternative than to merge the two as they were.
And meaningless because it can't be taken as anything more than "this room is in this". So not a valid data point, even if there are no others.
you may find visual on-screen evidence irrelevant, but that doesn't change what it is: visual on-screen evidence. Here's how it was depicted in a SOVF trailer
Not all "on-screen evidence" is evidence, any more than the Planet Killer or Decker's shuttlecraft changes size as the latter approaches the former. And I have no idea what an "SOVF trailer" is.
and yet I assume you believe that the shuttle flew into the mouth of that thing XD secret of vulcan fury
No, I believe that the show portrayed that wholly fictional event as happening. And how is anyone supposed to know that SOVF meant "Secret of Vulcan Fury"? It's not anything commonly referred to even in Trek circles. I mean, if I typed DS9COT outside of a Trek gaming discussion would anyone know it meant the game Deep Space Nine—Crossroads of Time? Nnnnnope.
just as that bridge dome shot portrayed the wholly fictional bridge in the wholly fictional ship as totally happening to sit at a funny angle. does knowing what the abbreviation means affect the picture itself?
A trailer from a non-game(never finished) being made by non-CBS/non-Paramount developers is as about as non-canon as it gets. (BTW, the turbolift doors open into space)
Oh really? XD (So is the Franz Joseph stuff, of course) Apparently, it is as meaningless as actual, real CBS/Paramount-made canon
The canon versions of that shot are meaningless because neither version (TOS and TOS-R) offer any evidence on the bridge's orientation. In either shot, neither the bridge faces forward nor does the turbolift line up with the nub. The only evidence the canon shots provide is that the bridge is located in the upper dome of the ship.
Given that the turbolift doors do not in fact open into space, nor is the top of the bridge see-through . . . I don't understand what's wrong with the explanation that the turbolift car, when leaving the bridge, makes a little jog aft and starboard to reach the main chute/core.
Nothing's wrong with it. It's a fine idea. One of the things that gets some fans hung up about it (not me, though) is the literal size of everything that's required to make it all fit together. That 947 feet is a problem, whether you're married to the number or not. If we're willing to just let things be the right size so it will work, then it's not as big a deal. Or, you solve the 947' problem by just sinking the bridge down half a deck. Those are the talking points in a nutshell, if I've followed all the bouncing balls.
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